Posting my response to Wolf at the Q tree as well here, I feel it is an accurate refutation of the SD narrative. Sorry if it offends.
Sd it appears, went WAY out on a limb, with a chainsaw. Supposedly, He was in “negotiations” with Durham and or Barr, to “get something done” on spygate, or he would REVEAL to the world, that Durham was a feint, not doing ANYTHING, and that there was another “secret” prosecutor, a SWAMP prosecutor, that was REALLY in charge.
SD offered Deadlines, “promises” and even intimated that he was offered a BRIBE to NOT post his “info” He gave a Friday the 14th deadline, and Barr DID announce the Clinesmith indictment, and confession. BUT, he promised even MORE and delayed his NEW deadline to this Tuesday the 18th (see I would have used the 17th, for Q, wink) but his NEW tact is that this ALL relates to the SSCI (Select Senate Committee on Intelligence) and the James Wolfe leaks and the subsequent coverups by Warner, and Weismann in the Mueller SC.
In my response below, you will SEE that that is extremely NARROW MINDED, and COMPLETELY ignores a big picture, and a LARGE conspiracy. SD is STILL uni-focused on HIS narrative of a SMALL group in the conspiracy, and THAT is where his logic is FLAWE. This conspiracy is MASSIVE, and involved HUNDRREDS as I have said here MANY times.
In MY opinion, SD is a SHINY object distraction, to try and REDIRECT to the ORIGINAL Cabal timeline, the one focused on Carter Page, and NOT the dossier. The Cabal have been trying to rewrite that timeline to lead AWAY from all the original spying since Adam Schiff changed it to counter Nunes.
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See, there is One of the problems I have with this particular tract. ONE it ASSUMES, that this was totally contained in that SAME small group that was asserted, and as we KNOW it is NOT. It was wide ranging, multifaceted on MANY fronts from DOJ, FBI, SC, Congress, MSM, CIA, WH, State, NSA, Fission GPS, DNC, the Hillary camp and acolytes, Five Eyes, and especially FOREIGN intelligences and SPIES.
Now, lets go to the ALTERNATE premise, the one I have ALWAYS put forth, that YES the SC was a setup to retroactively “justify” and make “legal” all the previous spying. THAT fits the narrative. But FOCUSING on ONE part, the FISC court, and those intel setups involving SSCI, Wolfe, and the SC covering it up, no matter HOW correct the narrative IS,. IGNORE the bigger picture, that ALL of this was widespread,, in a CONSPIRACY, involving HUNDREDS of people throughout our and OTHER Governments.
YES, Mueller was a figure head, YES Weismann was the REAL control of that SC investigation.
BUT, it does NOT stop or BEGIN there, it is simply ONE part of the picture. The BIG picture was that Mueller, etal, were used as a retroactive JUSTIFICATION for the ENTIRE original spying. The ones involving Nellie Ohr, and the dossier. Remember, THIS particular track, involves the FISC and FISA fraud on Page. THAT, except for the ILLEGALITES of it, is only PART of the BIG picture.
See, that FISA and FISC stuff, on Page, were attempts AGAINJ at retroactive justification, AFTER all the previous spying, you know the stuff that PREDATES Page, like Manafort, Cohen, Papadopoulos, Flynn, Don Jr, and Trump. ALL of that was BEFORE Crossfire Hurricane began on Jul. 31 2016.
See ALL that was ILLOEGAL before Jul 31 2016, when the Crossfire, and its AUTHORIZED spying etc. BEGAN. Papa was set up in APRIL and MAY of 2016, Manafort in MARCH of 2016, Don Jr on Jun 9 2016, Flynn in DECEMBER (originally) of 2015, and Trump and Cohen in BEFORE that in EARLY 2015.
There WAS NO FISA then, there was NO FISC then, there was ONLY the dossier and IT’S allegations. This tract IGNORES that, and ALL the FOREIGN spies and intel agencies involved THERIN Like Italy, UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
Now without (hopefully) pissing anyone off, thee article writer, is BUYING INTO the ORIGINAL spygate premise, that this ALL began with Carter Page, and YES they DID railroad and LIE on Page, and THEN tried to cover it up, LIE about it will all the stuff the author mentions, with Wolfe, Warner, ETC. BUTY that is ONLY trying to JUSTIFY the ORIGINAL lie, that PAGE was the predicate. REMEMBER, even PAGE was set up using…ta da …THE DOSSIER.
Adam Schiff OFREVER blew that NARRATIVE, when he SCREWED the Cabal timeline using PAGE as the predicate, when he himself introduced George Papadopoulos as THE predicate in 2018, when he wrote his COUNTER memo to the Nunes memo, that RIGHTLY highlighted the Page setup, USINJG THE DOSSIER>
I CARE about the ancillary stuff, the setups on Page, the COVERUPS by Weismann, and Warner, and Wolfe’s leak, BUT that should NOT be the FOCUS. The ORIGINAL spying, ILLEGAL, and WITHOUT a justification OR a WARRANT, is the REAL crime. It used FOREIGN assets on AMERICAN citizens AND a opposition Political frontrunner AND his associates and FAMILY. THAT should be THE focus, the BEGINNING, not the MIDDLE.
Mueller’s PURPOSE was to STALL the reveal, ATTACK Trump, by ANY means necessary, AND to rewrite the TIMELINE that would AID in covering the crimes and REAL start date. ANYTHING that jeopardized that, was to be COVERED UP, and THAT is exactly what this tract is highlighting, ONE of MANY coverup to prevent the TRUTH of the beginning. THE DOSSIER., WHO really ordered it, who REALLY wrote it, an HOW it REALLY got its “info”, and WHEN.
See, I look at THIS article as a DISTRACTION, providing JUST enough REAL stuff that happened, to entice, BUT that is a RABBIT HOLE, a SHINY object. Spend your time and resources HERE, and do NOT look THERE.
It ASSUMJES that Durham is a FEINT, BUT, we KNOW that Durham is REALLY doing stuff, and ALREADY HAS. Did we FORGET that Durham AND Barr went to ITALY BEFORE all this shit? WHO WAS IN ITALY. Did we SIMPLY FORGETR that? NO, I didn’t.
IMHO, this ENTIRE CHARADE by that other author, appears to me to be a BAIT AND SWITCH, a redirect, AWAY from where WE SHOULD BE looking. YES it is TRUE, and most likely PROBABLE, but that is the POINT in a good distraction, provide just enough truth, and juicy tidbits, to direct people where you WANT them, away from the TRUE crimes, and attacking the one LOOKING at those crimes.
IMHOI Durham, Huber, Bash, and yes MORE are ALL part of one big ginormous STING. ?YES they have to be separate AND “compartmentalized” Because DURHAM is not “doing anything” on ONE part of the sting, DOES NOT mean that there is not ANOTHER hidden US Atty that IS working on the SC.
Durham may well( Read IS) working on ANOTHER part, likely the FOREIGN spies at the HEART of this. There are OTHERS most likely looking at CONGERSS, Others looking at STATE, and still others looking at the SENIOR WH personnel, and THEIR roles. There are LIKELY others looking at the MSM, Clinton, the NSC, Ukraine, and who KNOWS what else. Look at as one BIG banquet, they ALL have a “dish” to prepare to COMPLETE the banquet. To OPENLY insinuate, and ATTACK a single PART of this is NARROW minded, and DANGEROUS.
WHY attack Durham? HE is NOT, let me repeat that NOT the HEAD of this total investigation. IT has ALWYS been BARR.
Durham is part of a TEAM, just because we do NOT yet see the other members, does NOT mean they are NOT working toward the particular GOALS. as DURHAM is. WHO announced the Clinesmith indictment? Was it DURHAM? NO., it was BARR. Does THAT mean Durham is NOT working, HELL NO, it just means this MAY or MAY NOT be part of HIS area of responsibility. Perhaps the OTHER person that is being threatened to be “outted” IS WORKING on the SSCI, and the PAGE FISC debacle. WHAT purpose does OUTING anyone have?
Ah, now you SEE, it does not PROVE that Durham is NOT working, it ONLY outs someone who WAS working, in secret, on the PAGE part. Counter productive, narrow minded, STUPID. It ONLY distracts, undermines Durham , the yet unnamed Atty, AND Barr.
If I were running a counter info op, I would consider those things being done a SUCCESS. If I were running a STING trying to take down a criminal conspiracy Cabal, one that committed treason, a coup, sedition, espionage, and more, I would consider that threat, and reveal, an ATTACK to my entire operation, one that did NOT further MY end, but sure as HELL helped the Cabal.
Now you see my problem with ANYONE doing this, not just one lone braggadocios blogger.
ASSUNPTION is the mother of all F ups. ASSUMING Durham is ALONE, and NOT doing anything, while someone else very well IS, does NOT help, it HURTS the goal. Looking at Page, and his end and NOT THE rest is a GREAT big F up, and THAT is where this appears to be focused, JMHO.
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I think everything President Trump has on the deep state is in Saudi Arabia in the same place as that funky green orb. When Trump took Paul Ryan there it was to send him and the rest of the deep state a message and that message was “We have it all” Roger’s will go down in History as the man who saved America.
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Agreed on BOTH. I think SA was to set up a counter REAL intelligence gathering site, AWAY from the prying eyes of team Cabal. I think the Cabal had several sites like it, repositories, one in Hawaii, one in DC, one in Clinton’s basement, and one BIG one in Ukraine..
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Remember Maxine Waters said Obama had his own intelligence thing that had everything, I cant remember how she said it exactly but she let the cat out of the bag and I think it was on msnbc
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For my part, I will reserve judgment on Sundance until it is time for Sundance to lay his cards face up on the table.
As a matter of fact, I will reserve judgment on Sundance until after Barr has laid his cards face up on the table, not only by announcing whom is going to be prosecuted, but by letting his team rack up a win-loss record of actual completed prosecutions.
Why give SD so much time? Because we are watching a very long drama, performed, in part, by masked actors. We have to wait until the end of the enactment for the ensemble to come out to take their bows, remove their masks, and receive their bouquets. Only then will we know exactly what role each cast member has essayed.
What has led to the current wait for Tuesday the 18th of August? Sundance putting off his big reveal until then, which had originally been scheduled for this past Friday/Saturday. And what led to that? His big mission “behind the wire”, taking his data and theories to people who might be able to help him, including people in Washington, DC. At least, according to him.
And what led to this whole mission, according to him? His connecting the dots to reveal a big part of the bad guys’ scheme, which no one else had seen before. And his desire to get this in front of the public, to put pressure on Barr, whom he does not trust, to ACT, rather than to continue a COVERUP. Again, according to Sundance.
Is all this normal? No. I have visited SD’s site off and on, mostly off, for maybe 7 or 8 years, since the aftermath of the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin shooting. I haven’t heard of Sundance doing anything other than research, blogging, etc., except for when he went somewhere to be an emergency responder for a hurricane or something. No missions “behind the wire”, or anything like that.
When did all this start? I don’t remember the precise date, but it was sometime a number of weeks ago, in early summer.
Was anything else unusual happening in early summer?
Yes:
–CCP virus testing was up, and border states were all getting extra inflows of sick people from Mexico, both leading to a rise in cases of CCP virus. Positive antibody tests from healthy individuals were added in to the positive results of infection from sick individuals, and every other corrupt scheme of creative accounting was used to exaggerate the number of cases.
–All the social and economic ills of lockdown, massive unemployment, Main Street businesses failing, people cooped up in their homes, restaurants deserted or shuttered, catastrophically low oil prices for the newly-revived American petroleum industry. High school and college graduations, proms, and other school celebrations and social events were cancelled, cheating our hard-working young scholars out of a lifetime of memories.
–Plus a Maoist insurrection and secession movement in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, NYC, DC, Chicago, etc. Including physical assaults aimed at the White House.
–And, in the military, high-ranking generals and admirals, both active duty and retired, were publicly contradicting the President of the United States (the National Command Authority) on the topic of whether it was their job to defend the White House from armed assault.
–Oh, and the long-awaited results of the much-delayed Durham investigation, which in late autumn or early winter AG Barr had solemnly promised for late spring or early summer, were nowhere in sight. And federal grand juries were not operating, due to fears stirred up by the CCP virus. So there was really no hope of the prosecutors being able to make up for lost time in the foreseeable future.
Are there such things as coincidences? Yes, there are coincidences in life. But decades of reading many books on intelligence, counterintelligence, military affairs, financial machinations, international banking, technology transfers, and other “secret” history, plus, more recently, following Q, Wolf Moon, Sundance, and the gang, have convinced me never to assume blindly that a coincidence has occurred randomly, when a hidden hand may have arranged events.
So it has struck me that Sundance may be playing a role in the greater game, and that his dramatic departure this summer from his usual routine may be a part of someone else’s plan.
What if someone in the WH, DoJ, or (ironically enough,) the Q team, was concerned about a long list of unfulfilled expectations by such swamp-draining patriots as the ObamaGate prosecutors, and other disappointments caused by setbacks such as Mueller hoax, Muh Ukraine, Shampeachment, CCP virus, lockdown, Soros-funded sham DAs, Maoism on the streets of Dim-led US cities, and other vigorous countermeasures of the American Left and of its foreign patrons and allies? What if the concern was so great, in an election year, for the decision to be made to activate Sundance to create some side drama for the summer, to distract the loyal believers in swamp drainage from a long list of unavoidable disappointments during the final countdown to the first dominoes being toppled?
So, we will see. If Sundance is holding nothing but a busted flush, I won’t be humiliated. I don’t know the man. But I won’t be hurried into assuming someone who has done such fantastic research in the past hasn’t found some valuable nuggets of truth, either. Or that his current scrimmaging with Barr and the DoJ is not a deception to confuse the enemy.
On the other hand, if Barr is holding nothing but a busted flush, then I will be terrified.
[I will probably post my comment above on Wolf’s board, as an independent comment. If you have or will have something on a thread there where we are allowed to discuss Sundance, and prefer me to post it as a reply to you, please just let me know.]
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I have nothing to fear if you post it to me Cov. I am ONLY interested in the truth. As I state in a long post today, my ONLY problems with the SD drama and “reveal” are his methodology. By intimating lack of action, a feint, negotiations and a bribe, he ONLY besmirches Durham and Barr. Besmirching them will NOT spur action, only REaction. A reaction the Cabal WANTS and has been tryiong to get since Barr announced Durham and ENDED Mueller.
Now ask yourself this. Did team Cabal EVER attack Wray? Comey? Sessions? Rosenstein? NO. Have they CONSTANTLY attacked Barr and Durham? YEP. Now, ask WHY?
Did you see that debacle of a House hearing? The ONLOY answer Barr was permitted to give unfettered was on…the Durham report, and WHEN it was coming. See there is ONE fallacy in that. Durham is NO LONGER an investigative fact finding mission, there will be NO report. Durham is a CRIMINAL investigation, made so by Barr BEFORE Covid. He can and DID convene grad juries, OBVIOUS by Clinesmith.
So that there refutes SD premise one, that Durham is a FEINT. If he IS, WHO got the deal and obvious indictments on Clinesmith? WHEN? Strike ONE. do you think that deal was made over a WEEKEND? LOL no they have HAD that deal. They have been PUMP{ING Clinesmith for INFO, and I bet he has sang like Whitney Houston.
Now WHAT purpose did the BRIBE angel have? Would it “motivate” or PISS OFF Barr? Would it HELP Barr? Or would it HELP the Cabal? Strike TWO.
Then we have the original announce pronouncement, on a FRIDAY to “reporters I like” and then the public on Sat. What happened to those “reporters” so they are going to SIT on the story of their career because SD was SRTILL in “negotiations” with Barr?
Reporters do not STALL, they want to be the FIRST with a story, burying the competition. What did that STALL enable? more hype, and eased the pressure for a weekend, giving TIME to put out the inevitable face saving post OR the big reveal.
WHAT did the SD stall BURY from the headlines, especially CONSERVATIVE headlines? Millie Weaver’s arrest and the release of Shadowgatew. a film revealing the CIVILIAN operation of what the Government actually DID to Trump. Using intel, surveillance, and algorithms to attempt to BLACKMAIL out a Presidential candidate, and later sitting President. Is the Shadowgate film the REVEAL of the “sources and methods” they used on Trump? Um, you BETCHA. Did SD and his machinations STEP on that, and then double down with the BRIBE? Yep. Strike Three. HES OUT
Yes, he most likely HAS info on Wolfe, Warner, the SSCI, and the FISA alterations, but we mostly already KNEW that SSCI, Warner and Wolfe were corrupt, and team Cabal that LIED on the Page FISA providence. SO what then was the TRUE purpose of SD little ploy?
Was it EXPOSURE? for WHOM? Was it to reveal something NEW? Or was it to demean and besmirch Barr and Durham as false and feints. when we see that that is not true, IMHO the only reason for the delay was COVID, as planned, and NOT a feint or lack of action. Therefore to ME, SD’s premise is LACKING.
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Those are some interesting points, Prognosticasaurus.
The DS seems to have acted a little late on picking up poor Millie. I wish her all the best, and hope she can get out soon.
But, despite all their thuggishness, they still failed to block the release of her video.
I’m anxious to see what turns up on the Sundance front today. I hope that he has not, as you suggest, been manipulated into acting in ways that benefit the DS.
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