This is in response to Wolfemoon from the Q tree, and a linked document highlighting the “hidden hand” behind the spying on the Trump campaign here: http://andmagazine.com/talk/2019/12/11/the-hidden-hand/
I read it, and while some info is accurate, some is not. First, Steele did not release his dossier AFTER Crossfire began. That dossier was made WELL before July 31 2016, in fact it was actually made BEFORE Manafort, Flynn and Papadopolous were set up.
It’s origins, if I am correct, and I believe I AM based upon my own research, anecdotal and corroborated evidence that was gathered from various other sources, and the words of Devin Nunes, Joe Digenova, and John Solomon that all agree that the dossier was constructed sometime in 2015, they say late 2015, I say EARLY 2015 (April).
On his other premise, There WAS a hidden hand, and his name is Barack Obama. Only HE could request a counter intel investigation into Trump. Only HE had enough “stroke” to get other foreign governments like Italy, Five Eye allies in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and the government in Ukraine to interfere in such an over act of ESPIONAGE. Only Obama could get the CIA, FBI, DOJ, State, NSA, and just about every other Government agency here that had ANY intel capabilities to not only ACT, but act in CONCERT with all the other spies.
Only Obama could grant access to OUR NSA database by people like Nellie Ohr, who REALLY wrote the “Steele” dossier. Only Obama could order Lynch or Kerry to grant Natalia Veselnitskaya a “special” VISA to enter the country in June just days before the June 9th Trump Tower meeting with Don Jr AFTER the SDNY US Attorney Preet Bahara had specificially DENIED that access.
Only Obama could ORDER Samantha Power, Susan Rice, and most probably OTHER senior staff to unmask US citizens on the 702 searches that were conducted by Ohr to formulate the dossier on specifically Donald Trump and his family and associates at such a record pace that NO ONE had EVER seen it’s like.
Obama is monetarily tied to the tune of $972,000 in a payment to Fusion GPS in EARLY 2016. Now why did he pay Fusion, an opposition research firm that just HAPPENED to be the firm contracted to CREATE the dossier that large sum in EARLY 2016. He was not running, what did HE need with OP research?
I believe he had it created on Trump as REVENGE for the “birther” scandal, in which Trump basically EXPOSED the Obama fraudulent birth certificate. I think he KNEW that Trump might win, and if he DID , Trump would DESTROY his “legacy” and MIGHT expose Obama’s TRUE origin.
I think Obama had Glen Simpson create the dossier, granted him and his team (Nellie Ohr) access to NSA databases, had HIS senior staff unmask pertinent info, and then return it to Ohr to use.
I think he then, as COVER, put the dossier, and ALL the government IC agencies weight behind it, up for sale to the highest bidder. I think the story that Jeb and the Washington Free Beacon were the origin of the dossier IS PART OF that cover. They MAY have been bidding for it, but Hillary is the one, along with the DNC that SHE controlled who finally BOUGHT the dossier for a reported $12,000,000 in MARCH of 2016, just as Trump was surging and ABOUT to be the Republican Nominee. That is coincidentally when the Manafort set up was coming into the light, but it HAD to be organized earlier.
I then think that the dossier was ALWAYS planned as the “October Surprise” to go along with the release of the Access Hollywood tape, all to paint Trump as a sexual predator and pervert, a VERY Clintonian thing to do.
See the ORIGINAL premise of the dossier was that Trump was compromised over money to Alfa and Deutche bank for a failed Trump Tower Moscow. They were going to use the $$ to blackmail Trump, as the story went, but there was a HUGE problem. The purported bag man between Russia and Trump was Michael Cohen. They SPECIFICALLY had Ohr look into Cohen, because they knew he was Trump’s lawyer, and a known “fixer” who had some shady dealings that COULD (and WERE) used against him to trap Trump (Taxi medallions, bank fraud, tax evasion by Mueller)
So Ohr put Cohen in a place of PROMINANCE in her work, she made ONE mistake, she put in there that Cohen had went to Prague,so she could use the inferred innuendo that he met “Russians” there to coordinate the blackmail on Trump and “fix” it. OOPS it was the WRONG Michael Cohen. Trump’s Cohen had an AIR TIGHT alibi, he was in California on a recruiting trip to USC for his son and photographed there with the USC baseball coach at the time he was supposedly in Prague. He ALSO had NEVER been to Prague, and his passport backed that up.
So MORE was needed, and THAT is when Steele was brought in to “spice” up the dossier and make it go from a “raw” document to a legit LOOKING intel document. I believe it was Steele, using his paid “sources” in Russia which he knew and used before from his days as the head of the MI6 Russian desk to “spice” up the document by adding the 2012 Ritz Carlton story of hookers and golden showers. Those “sources” were outed in the Horowitz report, one was Oleg Deperiska and the other was Sergei Milan. Both had ties to Steele, Brennan, and the Clintons (Think Clinton Foundation). In fact Depereska was interviewed TWICE trying to get damaging info on Manafort to get Trump or confirm the allegation of Putin blackmailing Trump over the Moscow Trump Tower failure. Onece by Peter Strzok, yep, THAT Peter Strzok. The other time it was by Bruce Ohr, you know, the #4 in the DOJ that just HAPPENED to be Nellie Ohr’s husband.
But wait it gets BETTER. Jean Camp, an Indiana University CIS professor, and Hillary campaign worker and DONOR “found” server pings from Alfa bank to Trump Tower NY’s server. How convenient, that was the EXACT premise that Putin was communicating with Trump serendipitously, and maybe even transferring money. Of course it to was a LIE, the pings were mere mass email spam, spam that was created by two people in ITALY, but that is another story. Curiously though, Hillary Sidney Blumenthal, John Podesta ALL tweeted about the pings on the SAME day, Oct 31 2016..Haloween. NO coordination right?
The dossier was meant to be THE kill shot to destroy Trump, and it was to be used AFTER the Access Hollywood tape release of Oct 7th 2016, just before the 2nd Presidential debate.
As “fate” would have it, that release would NOT come to pass. I think it was meant to be released the LAST weekend of October JUST before the election, another VERY Clintonian thing to do. BUT, something stopped it, a BIGGER story.
It was October 28th, JUST before the last weekend in October 2016. James Comey had a “rushed” press conference, in it he SHOCKED the nation, he announced he was reopening Hillary’s email investigation, after NEW evidence had come to light. The “new” evidence, was NOT new, it was STONEWALLED for months by the FBI headquarters. It was Anthony Weiner’s laptop that was seized by the SDNY Police in his “sexting” scandal with a MINOR girl.
The info was SO bad that it was said to involve sex acts with CHILDREN that made VETERAN sops ILL. That laptop ALSO had a curious folder marked “insurance” which purportedly contained over 600000 emails that were from Hillary’s email server. did it contain the 33000 missing deleted emails? Comey would have to “investigate” because SDNY was going to go PUBLIC with the laptop. Comey HAD to get that laptop and gain CONTROL. He HAD to reopen or SDNY would blow open a HUGE under age sex racket . THAT is what blew up the timing of the dossier release.
Curiously, Peter Strzok, yep HIM AGAIN, conducted the email search in less than FIVE days and found NO “new” emails…RIGHT (I did the math, that is LESS than 3 seconds spent PER email, and THAT assumes a 24 hr workday.).
The dossier and its origins were ALWAYS the “hidden hand” of which was spoken in the article link you gave me. EVERYTHING, including this LATEST coup impeachment was meant to “justify” the means to gather the info to either “corroborate” “prove” ANYTHING in the dossier to be true. EVERYTHING failed because it ALL was based on supposition and conjecture and a LIE worse than ANYTHING we could right on this or any blog.
EVERYTHING goes back to that dossier, all the ORIGINAL Russia allegations, the hooker allegations, Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Papadopolous, Sessions, even Roger Stone were ALL casualties of “protecting” that document and the TRUTH of WHO made it, at WHOSE request it was made, HOW it was mad, WHEN it was made, and WHY it was made. ALL to prove it OR to cover it ALL up.
The Russia narrative changed at LEAST 5 times. The first, and MOST prevelant, straight from the dossier was that Trump was compromised by Putin and blackmail.
It then morphed in July, just after Trump had won the primaries, just after WikiLeaks had released the DNC emails AND the Podesta emails. It was by Robbie Mook on CNN and it was that Russia had USED WikiLeaks to “hack” the DNC. See, THAT would give “cover” to the DAMAGING info IN the WikiLeaks, while DISCOUNTING the actual info they revealed.
The “hack’ part was a cover, and they used Crowdstrike to say it was “Russia” who “hacked” the DNC. You know, the SAME Crowdstrike that was mentioned BY Trump in this years July 25th call to Ukranian President Zelensky. Coincidence right that Trump was ASKING for THEIR server. NOW you know WHY the “impeachment” sham was concocted, and it had LITTLE to do with Biden, though his crimes are there, and EVERYTHING to do with Trump wanting that SERVER. Crowdstrike is BASED in UKRAINE, and it’s owner is a BIG DNC donor AND Clinton friend…coincidence right?
But WAIT, it gets BETTER, the Papadopolous setup, held in APRIL and MAY of 2016 in Italy and LONDON, BEFORE Crossfiire Hurricane BEGAN (which was supposed to be the START of ANY spying on or around Trump) BEFORE July 31 2016. Not only that, but Papadopolous was FED the info about Russia having the WikiLeaks on Clinton and the DNC BEFORE they were released, and BEFORE Mook had insinuated that was even Russia that did the “hack” HOW could that be that Mifsud had that info? It was THAT info that Halper and Downer set up to be extracted from Papadopolous in MAY 2016 in the bar in London. Downer would then report that a drunken Papadopolous told him about the Wikileaks…except they weren’t RELEASED yet, and Mifsud and Halper were the ones that TOLD Papadopolous about them.
Downer then USED that info to notify Five Eyes contacts in the UK AND Australia, where Downer was from and a former MP there. That was transmitted to Brennan through Five Eyes to, according to Schiff, START the spying. EXCEPT that Papadopolous was BEING set up and SPIED on to get that info…WELL before July 31 2016.
See Now they had FOUR setups that were BLOWN BEFORE the “start date” of Crossfire. Flynn in 2015 also by Halper using a unknowing Russian “honeypot” at a conference where Flynn just happened to be sitting beside Putin. Never mind that it was Feb 2015 BEFORE Trump was even RUNNING for President. Strike ONE. The next occurred when a Ukrainian MP released the Black Ledger files on Manafort, which were a FRAUD and that MP went to PRISON over in Ukraine (again). They were hidden lobbying “funds” that proved Manafort was violating FARA regulations and HIDING it and the money. Except that Manafort at the time did not even KNOW Trump and he was working WITH the Podesta group doing the lobbying. The Podesta Group, run by Tony Podesta, John’s brother, was allowed to “amend” their FARA applications, while Manafort was arrested, tried, convicted, and put in prison over HIS, the EXACT same thing the Podesta’s were working WITH HIM on. Two problems besides the fact that this happened BEFORE Trump even KNEW Manafort. One it was NOT “Russians” it was Ukrainians. Two, the info was later found to be a FRAUD, MADE up by the MP in Ukraine and given to Marie Yovanovich (remember her from this current scam?) who THEN gave it to US MSM. All this at the same time that Alexandra Chalupa was working the US/ Ukrainian Embassy here to gather damaging info ON Trump, Russia, and Manafort. Chalupa was ANOTHE RClinton donor and DNC operative…one that just happened to know, work with, and meet multiple times with Eric CIaramella…the “whistleblower” Nothing to see here…right? Strike two.
Then we have Papdopolous, who was set up above. Horowitz found that exculpatory info from Papadopolous was “withheld” and then “lost” by the FBI. RIGHT. I guess that is why they used Charels Tawill later to set him up a year later with 10000 in CASH given to Papadopolous in Israel, while he was on his honeymoon, to finally “get” Papadopolous to “lie” to the FBI about the money, which he LEFT in Greece with his wife and Lawyer. He was arrested anyway at Dules International upon his return. The FBI was WAITING for him…they were looking for that MONEY, and were going to HAMMER Papa with it, it is a FELONY to bring more than 9999 into the US undeclared. When they did NOT find what they were looking for, they interrogated Papa for HOURS at the airport, until they got their “lie” See Papa was STILL under surveillance. But this was strike three AND FOUR. None of the people Papa met with were “Russian”. Hapler is from the Uk, Downer is from Australlia, Mifsud was maltese, but WORKING FOR Italy, and Tawil was from Israel. No Russians there.
They tried to set up Don Jr on June 9th 2016, ALSO before Crossfire…how can that BE? That was the Trump Tower meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya over the Majitski Act and Russian adoptions. Manafort was THERE, and it WAS surveilled because Manafort ALREADY had his FISA..WELL before July 31 2016 right? They were trying to entrap Don jr meeting with a Russian and discussing dirt on Hillary…the WikiLeaks again…BFORE they were released. As I said earlier Natalia Veselnitskaya. was not even supposed to be in the COUNTRY. Yet there she was attempting to set up Don Jr…with a RUSSIAN, over compromising Hillary info, to fit the narrative that WAS COMING and FROM the dossier that Trump was working as an asset of Russia because he was BLACKMAILED. Don jr BEAT them, I believe, because he TOO had tapes of the meeting, and he restated them VERBATUM in Congressional hearings. They were laying a perjury trap, but DOn Jr had his office recorded, a COMMON bib business practice that the Cabal DID NOT count on (Mueller). They thought they could get Trump to drop out using his son, just as they would do to Flynn to get him to plead guilty to BOGUS lying to the FBI charges. That is why the dems were so “hot” for the grand jury testimonies from Mueller’s investigation. Even though he was NOT indicted, they were going to USE the fact that Don Jr was even looked at by a grand jury to get Trump… even if it was ILLEGAL and a set up to GET that grand jury. There were getting DESPERATE. Strike FIVE.
See, all the previous spying, INCLUDING the dossier and Cohen, was NOT bearing fruit. NO Russian contacts or illegalities could be found OR manufactured. They needed SOMETHING to retroactively justify and give cover to ALL the previous spying, ESPECIALLY all the FOREIGN agents and setups in FOREIGN countries by FOREIGN spies, and ACT of WAR, especially since we were TREATIED with the FOUR countries that were DOING the spying, even if, secretly, they were doing the spying at OBAMA’s request.
Enter Carter Page. He was illegally FISA’d using the VERY DOSSIER that was the start of it all. Page fit the bill to GET a FISA that would make ALL the other spying “legal” He had ACTUAL contacts with a Russian bad guy, Igor Sechin.
One slight problem Page was working FOR the CIA and the FBI here to set up and take down Sechin, which he DID in 2009-2014. Page was OUR asset, and that is what the FISA application was ALTERED to omit, so page, a MASTER spy and infiltrator, could be INSERTED in the Trump campaign to infiltrate, and GATHER info. EVERYONE he taled to would be surveilled, and then everyone THEY talked to would ALSO be surveilled and so on. Page was and IS a plant. No way he did NOT know wha this tasks were and WHO he was to make contact with, even BRIEFLY. Not only that, but he LIED about his work with the CIA for THREE YEARS to every conservative TV and radio host he could talk to…PUBLICALLY. When he RELUCTANTLY told Sean Hannity the truth, he said he did work for the US government, but not WHO, and he did it for FREE…RIGHT…MOST people infiltrate a Russian mob, set them up, get them arrested, and then not only live with all appendages, but go on NATIONAL TV and Radio REPEATEDLY to talk to EVERYONE. No FEAR, NO hiding.Out in the OPEN. O?NLY an “protected asset” could do that. Only an experienced AGENT WOULD do that. Page was a means to an END. He was the justification.
He was the predicate to link Trump to Russia. He was the cover for the REAL predicate, the dossier. Mueller used him, but FOLLOWED the dossier, NOT Page’s story. Page was NEVER arrested like ALL the others except Don Jr (who was put up before a grand Jury, just NOT indicted).
WHY? Page was the agent of a foreign power that lead to the FISA, even though he wasn’t and they KNEW IT, why did they NOT arrest him to complete the illusion? Because they NEVER thought they would get caught, and they NEVER thought that Schiff would F up their carefully reconstructed lie and timeline by refuting the Nunes memo, which RIGHTLY named the dossier as the predicate, by using Papadopolous as the START. Whoops, Papa was not only BEFORE Crossfire began, did NOT meet with ANY Russian’s, he had EXCULPATORY evidence “lost” AND was set up AGAIN in 2017.
ALL this to hide that dossier, Only something VERY bad could make the Cabal want to hide that garbage work. We already supposedly know that it was debunked. We already supposedly know who paid for it, how much and when. We already supposedly know who made it and what smethods and sources were used, OR DO WE?
Ask yourself ONE question. If this dossier was such garbage and we know so much about it, WHY do the Cabal, the ENTIRE Cabal, keep trying to HIDE and DOWNPLAY it, DESPITE the fact that it was used as a predicate FOR Papa, Cohen, and all things to get Trump. Despite the fact that it was Mueller’s road map. Despite the fact that Schiff had to construct a MASSIVE lie filled counter memo to Nune’s memo JUST to hide the dossier usage.
It AINT to cover up simple FISA abuse and lies on Page. There is MORE her LOOK DEEPER. In the END, they ALL had only ONE boss, and that is HIS dossier, obtained ILLEGALLY and then covered up by TREASON using foreign spies, governments, OUR government, FBI, CIA, State Dept, NSA, Congress, Five Eyes, the MSM, and MORE.
ALL 4th amendment violations, espionage, FISA abuse, LYING to a court, FRAUD, sedition, conspiracy, TREASON, and MORE. ALL to protect a “garbage document” WHY?
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