Answer to timeline question by LadyPenguin on The Q Tree.

She wanted me to explain the timeline problems that are just now coming to the forefront . My reply follows.

 

Certainly,

The Cabal and ther MSM sycophants would have you believe that Crossfire Hurricane, the counter intel investigation started on Donald Trump on July 31 2016 was the BEGINNING of all their spying.

That it was ALL on the up and up, and that through this investigation they “discovered” “Russian” collusion between Donald Trump, his campaign, and his surrogates to at first “hack” the DNC server, then “hack” John Podesta’s Gmail account, and finally, using WikiLeaks, who they list as a “Russian” agent and proxy, to interfere in the 2016 coming election, and “steal it from Hillary Clinton. They used Carter Page, as that impetus, obtained a FISA warrant to spy on him, and ALL persons around or connected to him. They used the OHR dossier (you know it as the Steele dossier) to obtain that warrant. ALL based on FALSE premises like WikiLeaks was a “Russian” asset, Donald Trump was a “Russian” compromised Manchurian candidate, and that Russia “hacked” the 2016 election in favor of Trump and against Hillary. ALL absolute BULLSHIT. Russia NEVER hacked anything, and NEVER interfered in the 2016 election at ALL.

The reason they used Page is because he was a former CIA and FBI agent that setup Russian Igor Sechin FOR us. Page already had a FISA put on him fomr that work in 2014. Page was planted to right the timeline, as he was the only one that had REAL Russian contact, AND he was the only one AFTER Crossfire began. He was FISA’d in October 2016, after being “floated by Michael Issakof in September 2016.

Page was ALSO the only one set up and FISA’d, besides Don Jr, who did NOT get charged, arrested, or railroaded.

Page was an attempt to retroactively “set” the timeline right, and there fore “back” justify ALL the previous spying.

See, all the previous spying on Trump began, as now Glen Simpson has admitted, into at LEAST the Fall of 2015, when the dossier was created.

Trump was not even the Republican’s nominee yet, but that tells you he was ALWAYS the leading candidate, and the MARK from the beginning.

The OHR dossier was commissioned by Barack Obama, ($972,000 paid to Fusion GPS by Obama in EARLY 2016) in early 2015, created by Nellie Ohr, using NSA database searches granted to her by Obama, and then ILLEGALLY unmasked by Susan Rice and Samantha Power ALSO at Obama’s request, WITHOUTH a warrant, that is WHY they used OHR, through a 3rd party Fusion GPS to do the searches, WITHOUT a warrant, for plausible deniability.

All of this, was WAY before the “legitimizing” counter intel operation began in July 2016. A funny thing happened, Obama, and his Cabal began to quickly figure out that Hillary WAS NOT going to win, she had ZERO enthusiasm, and ZERO appeal beyond the MSM and the hardcore dems. They thought the dossier, could be used to smear Trump into withdrawing, but he was only GAINING strength in the early part of 2016.

A plan was hatched to use the dossier to do more than smear Trump (think golden showers part, that is what HILLARY had inserted, to go with the Access Hollywood tape she was hold in reserve along with Alicia Muchado and others. ALL to make Trump a sexist, serial harasser or worse)

Obama then authorized Comey and Brennan in EARLY 2016 to use the dossier to paint Trump as the original part of the dossier suggested, compromised by Putin over a failed 2012 Trump Tower Moscow, saying Trump was in debt to ALFA and Deusche bank, despite the project NEVER getting out of the PLANNING phase.

The dossier said that Michael Cohen was the principal intermediary and “bag man” for the Russians, and that he met with them in Prague. One problem with this ALL. Not only was it the WRONG Michael Cohen, (Ohr had forgot to cross reference SS and passport info. ) The 2nd problem one would have to believe is that the Russians KNEW in 2012 that Trump was to run, and win FOUR years letter.

So, here comes the timeline problems. Obama knew that what he had commissioned against an American Citizen, and his family was ILLEGAL. and the Cohen part had been BUSTED. He NEEDED “proof” to justify the spying. So what did he do? Authorize MORE spying and SETUPS, this time using FOREIGN intel, govts, and SPIES.

That is when it began with the Manafort setup using Marie Yovanovich and the Black Ledger in March of 2016, right after Manafort had joined the Trump team. They used that PHONY document to force Manafort out, use his contacts in Ukraine against him and Trump, and his lobbying to later put him in prison for tax evasion, FARA violations, and bank fraud, all to get him to “roll over” on Trump. One problem, Ukraine is NOT Russia, and the Podesta brothers firm, including John Podesta, Hillary’s campaign chair, was ALSO in the EXACT same lobbying deal that Manafort was (They were allowed to amend their FARA applications.)

So, Manafort did NOT justify the spying. They were buys setting up their Flynn narrative to be used later at this time as well. They moved on to Papadopolus in April of 2016, being setup and “fed” info on WikiLeaks, and the DNC “hack” using Stephen Halper and Joseph Mifsud, BEFORE anyone knew of the “hack”. Then in APril of 2016, the re setup Papdopolous, in London, using Halper again, and this time Alexander Downer, a former Australian diplomat, and Clinton friend. They had a supposed drunken Papadopolous in a bar, tell Downer the info that Mifsud had planted into him. Downer went right to Five eyes in the UK and Australia, and did as told, relayed the conversation with Papadopolous (taped) to them. They used the Five Eyes back channel ( to circumvent US 4th amendment law)to transfer the info to Brennan at CIA, and he used it to further the narrative (Papadopolous HAD to also have a FISA for him to USE it) .

But, the Cabal had a problem here TOO. Papadopolous, on the same tape, had said sometime during the conversation, that he would NEVER relay Russian info, as it would be TREASON. So they could NOT use just him either.

They moved on in June 9th to Don jr, and Natalia Veselnitskaya to set up Don jr over “Russian dirt on Hillary…again with the WIKILEAKS, one problem, that was ALSO before the WIKI releases on the DNC, and Don Jr smelled a rat, and blew off Veselnitskaya when her story devolved into the Majitsky act on adoptions. They tried to use the info from that meeting which was ALSO taped, against Don jr (Natalia Veselnitskaya was briefed BEFORE and after the meeting directly by Glen Simpson, depite NOT being allowed in the country by Preet Bahara, the SDNY US attorney, someone gave her a “special” VISA to enter the country.)

Do Jr blew up that narrative by releasing all his emails (I suspect he ALSO had tapes, and KNEW the game that the Tower meeting was taped, probably because of Manafort ALSO having a FISA)

Now, they had NOTHING on Trump Russia “collusion” and ALL their spying BEFORE Crossfire began, had to have a justification, even a retroactive one. Enter Carter Page. In October. The ONLY one of the previous NOT arrested, or charged with a crime, and the ONLY one with actual Russian contact, and the ONLY one AFTER July 31 2016.

Does that explain the timeline problem? We would not even ??HAVE know about the Papadopolous setup, except Adam Schiff PANICKED when Devin Nunes rightly fingered the OHR dossier as the START and predicate for it ALL. Nunes had seen in the WH SCIF, with his OWN eyes, that Obama not only KNEW, but HE set it up, and HE was getting REGULAR updates on ALL the previous Trump spying BEFORE July 31 2016. That is what THEY ALL are trying to hide.

Schiff ALSO saw the EXACT info Nunes did, and he said NOTHING. He only produced a counter memo to Nunes, citing Papadopolous and NOT Page as the START of the Counter intel investigation. ONE SMALL problem, Schiff FORGOT that Papadopolus not only was WAY before July 31 2016, making it ILLEGAL, he was set up using FOREIGN spies, on FOREIGN soil, and there was exculpatory=y EVIDENCE they had to hide.

Schiff HIMSELF blew up the Cabal timeline to protect the dossier. WHY? Papadopolous was THEN the focus, and he was BEFORE Crossfire began.

The questions MUST be asked. WHY was a counter intel investigation iniatied on CITIZEN, not even, nominee, Trump?
Who authorized it?
What methods and sources were used?
Who gave Ohr access?
Who REALLY paid for the dossier?
What was it’s REAL purpose?
Why was it used as BOTH the SOURCE, and PREDICATE and JUSTIFICATION for IITSSELF?
What did Barack Obama know?
WHEN did he know it?

Those questions are ALL losers for the Cabal, blow it ALL up, reveal a seditious treasonous COUP, lead to even MORE bad questions, and FINGER Barack Obama as the corrupt HEAD of this conspiracy. Make him a seditionist, and a TRAITOR.

Hope that answers your question.